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the annotated pilgrim, part 2
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[info]destroyerzooey

The Annotated Pilgrim™

In which I go through each volume and, uh, annotate.

NOTE: I will make this more official at some point. Currently it is a work in progress.

SPOILERS FOLLOW



VOLUME 1: SCOTT PILGRIM’S PRECIOUS LITTLE LIFE

PART 2

07-bedtime


After the party
The Amazon.ca thing came about because every time I ordered something from them, it would arrive the next morning! It was kind of creepy, yet wonderfully futuristic.

NOW Magazine has been used as a plot device a few times. It’s a real thing, one of those ubiquitous urban free weekly arts papers. We literally always would be checking NOW for listings and stuff, so I couldn't help putting it in the book (again and again and again).

Scott zooms away after Knives kisses him, and if you look at him closely, he’s just this poorly-drawn, twitchy thing. That’s a device I picked up from a ridiculously funny manga and anime called “Sexy Commando Gaiden: Sugoi-yo Masaru-san!”, introduced to me by an old friend many years ago.

Sunday evening
Knives is wearing the jacket she didn’t buy at Goodwill. I guess she went back and got it. Scott is wearing a “Canadian Girls Kick Ass!” shirt, which is one of those crappy touristy things (and generally only worn by girls). Neil’s shirt has an approximation of the Napster logo, which I always thought was cute.

I like the way Scott and Kim are completely uninterested in Stills’ story about the show. I had originally wanted to make the whole process of playing shows a lot less glamorous, but that kind of got left by the wayside a bit. Anyway: playing shows is pretty unglamorous in real life.

Crash and the Boys are named after a NES game, Crash N’ the Boys Street Challenge (localized from one of those Technos Japan “Riki & Kunio” games, as was River City Ransom). The little girl, Trasha, is totally made up (I hope you knew that)!

Ramona, come closer
The line is from a Bob Dylan song covered by the Flying Burrito Brothers. The scene when she comes to the door was kind of tricky to write, I recall, because Scott says a lot of things that I would never say (or at least be brainless enough to say out loud). I also had to establish our first impression of Ramona, and up to this point I knew very little about her. I like the way she chews her pencil and stuff, her body language.

I can elaborate a bit on the whole subspace highways thing – it comes out of the fact that Canada is a few years behind in a lot of consumer technology. The first example that comes to mind is point-of-purchase ATM card transactions. If you wanted to use your bank card in a grocery store five or six years ago, the USA had you covered but Canada was pretty spotty. The technology is still not as good here. Something as simple as cell phones is probably another good example. Yeah, Europe and Japan have them before the USA, but Canada is another two years behind. So the idea behind subspace highways (and some other Ramona-related stuff) is that maybe the Americans figured out the technology and it’s just taking a while to trickle down to us in Canada. Or maybe we’ll NEVER get it. Sometimes that’s how it goes.

Another little thing I like is how, at the end of this scene, Scott signs his name really gigantically and runs out of space on the form.

08-signature


So Yeah
There was a huge April blizzard that year and I remember walking home from the Beguiling in hip-deep snow (or so I remember it; I’m probably exaggerating). I’m sure I came home and wrote “they meet during a crazy April blizzard,” and this scene came out of that. I like their ambiguous, runaround, getting to know you dialogue. (Also her line “I’m waitin’ on you!” is Starcraft dialogue that I struggled to insert seamlessly into the book.)

They walk through a park called Hillcrest Park, which I didn’t reference. There are stairs up one side and down the other side (coming out on Christie), so they’re heading generally east, and then they walk down Christie as the blizzard picks up, supposedly.

The “falling through subspace” page was going to be something completely different, but I like what I ended up with.

08a-ramona'sRamona’s apartment
The exterior was from some random snapshot I took on some random side street near Dundas and Bathurst. The foyer is based on the house where Chris and I used to live, and her kitchen was vaguely inspired by another friend’s apartment. There’s a Johnny Cash photo on the wall, and another random photo of some people (possibly Ramona’s family). The 20 different kinds of tea is a joke on Hope, who had a whole lot of tea when I met her. (I like Scott’s line “there’s more than one kind of tea?”) The poster for Rear Window is also a slight nod to Hope, who likes Hitchcock just fine.

Sometimes I’m proud of the sexy scene and sometimes I’m not sure about it. The book gets read by younger kids than I’d expected, which makes me nervous, but at the same time it’s not at all explicit, and I’d like to think of it as positive. I kind of balked in Volume 2 and 3, not going into Scott and Ramona’s sex life at all. Obviously the books aren’t about sex, but I’d like to keep things well-rounded...

Eventually...
I don’t know why Matthew Patel’s challenges come in the form of junk mail (or at least are interpreted that way). I guess he’s just too meek and polite in writing to be seen as a threat. As the first boss, he obviously had to be kind of pathetic.

Knives’ haircut was supposed to be sort of the “Amelie,” which was insanely popular among hip girls for a while. Scott was originally supposed to successfully break up with her in this scene, and when it came time to write it, he just pussied out. That kind of thing is tough, and he’s a weakling.

24 hrs later
The Rockit was a real club, a total dive, but last time I went to Toronto I noticed it was gone. We once played in a battle of the bands there with a bunch of terrible teenaged punk bands. I really failed to capture how cramped, ugly and terrible the place was. I kind of made it huge. Sorry! The backstage area is also completely fictional, as in it most likely never existed at all. There wasn’t room.

I like how Wallace is the only one who dresses like an adult (I assume this is because he’s gay and therefore has fashion sense). The character of Jimmy is an amalgamation – someone kept having the hots for my sister’s dates, although he 09-we_are_sbbnever went as far as Wallace gets (kissing!). He’s named Jimmy ONLY because I wanted her to say “This is Jimmy,” which is a Starcraft line (spoken by Jim Raynor when he answers the com sometimes).

A note: Knives grows up quickly, and becomes fashionable and aggressive, which mirrors Envy’s transformation (in Scott’s recent past) – which is why he’s already starting to be terrified of her before Ramona even becomes a possibility!

The whole Crash and the Boys sequence is just pure fun and nonsense. The only note I’ll make is that the “Baby I was born to destroy you!” spread was supposed to be this detailed, Akira-esque wave of destruction, but I chickened out on drawing it. Oh, and it says “The Archies” on the drums because I feel that all cartoon bands are somehow related to the Archies.

Matthew Patel
Some people hate this part. The fighting at the start is pure Capcom, with an Alpha Counter and then a sweep / air juggle. I drew this scene pretty early in the book because they wanted some fighting stuff to show off.

Scott’s shirt says “Mass Teen Fainting” and there’s fainted teens all around him, but it wasn’t even a conscious thing – it’s just the title of the first Plumtree album. Happy coincidence!

10-teen_ramonaMatthew Patel is thus named because someone I know dated two Matthews, and I really liked this designer named Harsh Patel (he designed the font that I used for the large titles such as “So Yeah,” and gave it to me for free because, uh, we were both Sloan fans?). He’s visually based on a guy I saw on the train one time, and he’s Indian because... uh... because his name is Patel. And I was planning more of a Bollywood thing, which got toned down into the slightly-less-baroque scene we see shortly.

I don’t know what the hell I was thinking with Ramona’s flashback. I was operating on pure instinct. When she says “for some reason they all wanted me” you’re supposed to look at her and realize they all wanted her because she had a fully-developed body in the seventh grade (ie boobies!). This is compounded by Matthew Patel being like 3 feet shorter than her. All I remember about middle school is that I was like five feet tall and all the girls were gigantic.

“Nothing but pre-adolescent capriciousness” is another one of my secret favourite lines. It’s deliciously overwrought.

“You won’t know what hit you in the slightest!”
Most likely my favourite drawing in the book. The scene is inspired on one level by Bollywood stuff, on another level by the video for Janet Jackson’s “Miss You Much”, and on a third level by the Para Para comic by Andy Seto. The dance number was planned from the start, but I hadn’t thought about how to approach it until I realized: they should all be doing the pose from the cover! Yeahhh!

I like the large panels and the kinetic feeling. The truth is, I drew this entire scene in one night from about midnight to 6 AM. Actually, the truth is that I drew almost the entire book – at least a hundred pages – in the final month before it was due. I’m unable to work that way anymore. I don’t think this book suffers too much for it – it has a certain sense of demented urgency which works for the story. But, yeah, can’t do it anymore.

11-slightest

I like the way she chews her pencil and stuff, her body language.

I was rereading Vol. 1 yesterday (because of your annotated notes) and was thinking the exact same thing at that part. Very well done.

Starcraft! You know, I was wondering about that. I was a big Starcraft player way back when (though, I was never really good at it. I did make some neat maps though).
Anyway, yeah, I was wondering about those lines. Well, honestly, just the "I'm waiting on you." one. That's awesome!

Ha, I definitely noticed that line.

I knew "Crash 'n the Boys" sounded familiar. "Street Challenge" entered my head, but I never got a mental picture of a Technos game. Trasha made me think of the little Japanese girl in Gorillaz.

I loved the Matthew Patel fight.

All the references and real-life connections are frankly much more interesting to read about than hearing that Bryan is just super-imaginative and came up with everything himself.

Trasha made me think of my friend Trisha Doan (incidentally, also in a band).

I made the error of calling her Trasha once because...I guess because I thought it was funny since it was so over-done? It was met with sarcasm and possibly short-term hatred.


Also, on Mal pulling things from life, Mark Twain once said that all the characters in all his books, he'd met on the Mississippi River. Lots of writers (arguably most writers) do it.
It makes me feel better knowing others do it too.

Yeah, Noodle. That's what I thought, too.

This is really interesting. Thank you very much!

Just for the record, I LOVE the fight scene and the singing and the evil hipster chicks. It is my favourite part of the whole book!

I like the way that they've got this weird rhyming patter going during the fight but then when it's time to give the 'message' or 'moral' a la every poorly animated cartoon anyone ever loved ever, Scott just can't find the rhyme exactly, so he approximates with "whatever". That is classic stuff.

The only poorly animated cartoons is the crap they have now.
They don't even try anymore.

But "whatever" is always a classic filler.

Well, I meant more like G.I. Joe or what-have-you- the ones where they would always explicitly state the moral of the story. Or shonen anime, where the character just has to believe in himself and his friends and the heart of the cards and pa-zow, victory.

(I also loved the same bit in SP3)

Ah yes. Why try to get a moral across when you can flagrantly state it?

It was deliciously hilarious.

As I tell my similiarly demographic friends, Scott Pilgrim is a graphic novel after our own hearts.

I was laughing at Spaced the other day, kept thinking of this. Hope the movie works out soon!

It's like DVD commentary for comics. Only better because commentaries always tend to ruin movies for me but this is just making me love SP more.

I lost interest in video games back in the 80s and I was never much interested in English language rock music, so obviously, Scott Pilgrim didn't have much of an appeal to me. On the other hand, I find The Annotated Pilgrim fascinating, and I hope it makes it into print, eventually. I'd like to get a more lasting and convenient copy than the pixels on my screen.

I have damn never been happier for the existence of LiveJournal than I am right now.

Hah, i always thought that poster was of Seann Penn and was so dissapointed... but Cash.. Cash is gold

sexytime with scott and ramona

(Anonymous)

2006-06-23 09:27 pm (UTC)

hey, mal, this annotated scott pilgrim project rocks.

i think it's okay that the sex scene is read by preteens or whatever- it's actually awesome role-modelling for both genders, without being explicit or lame- a difficult balance to strike, and you nail it.

you paint scott as a bit of a bumbling twit- slick one moment, nervous the next- and he's a romantic to boot (women all over the planet signed when he said "i needed this, whatever this is"). and all his loveable, nonthreatening, wimpy behaviour gets him the girl, which is awesome. i wish more boys acted like scott.

and it's great that ramona's totally in charge of the whole thing- right up to the point where she changes her mind about having sex. plus she has a hot healthy bod. more girls need to realize how cool it is to be like ramona, god knows i'm trying.

kids reading scott pilgrim will be well-primed for the kind of sexual adventure where you still respect yourself in the morning, and there's something both innocent and hot about the fact that you left the whole thing a bit vague. how can anyone complain about that? if they do, beat up their faces, 'cause it's way better than watching britney spears gyrate and moan that she's a slave 4 U, and that shit's on primetime.

stamperoo
ps, SP3 kicks ass. nice one!

Re: sexytime with scott and ramona

[info]destroyerzooey

2006-06-24 02:48 am (UTC)

this is a very nice comment thank you!

Re: sexytime with scott and ramona

[info]reddeadrazi

2006-06-24 06:56 am (UTC)

Yes, there's no question that what you don't see is sexier than what you do, every time.

I always found that them not having sex right-off is one of the best parts of the story. Something happened and they didn't become a one night stand, but drifted into something better.

Also, as a writing tool, now we the audience know sex isn't a factor in this relationship. It is assumed that because Ramona states she may change her mind later, and that sex was shown as not happenign initially, they have yet to do anything sexual. Everything we see is them being them, without the hidden bedroom stuff. What we see is what we get, and frankly you don't see enough of it.

A relationship early-on, without sex as a factor winds a weird road. There's invariably that mild regression to a cuter, younger stage, where being together is enough, yet simultaneously, the strive to prove you're worth hanging around with just for that. Scott and Ramona walk this fine line well and come off as being awkward and yet still comfortable, as in like in the later line where she tells Scott they're broken-up because he can't remember highschool (? my book is lent out right now, I can't verify the details).

...uhm. I'm rambling. Good on the non-sex. Clever, bold and choke full of comedy nougat.

Re: sexytime with scott and ramona

[info]bobcat2022

2006-06-25 01:57 pm (UTC)

I liked the part where Ramona says she changed her mind, and Scott's okay with it, and then they just cuddle. Good stuff.

Re: sexytime with scott and ramona

[info]verao_tempo

2006-07-27 12:31 am (UTC)

I actually still assumed they are having sex now...??

Guess I'm wrong.

Re: sexytime with scott and ramona

[info]mean_spiders

2006-06-24 07:02 am (UTC)

you're welcome! friend!

Hmmm... y'know, the whole fight scene with Matthew Patel actually kind of reminded me of 'Space Channel 5', I always assumed that's where you got the inspiration for that!

it might have been subconscious... i beat that game when it came out, but then i totally forgot about it until i saw it for ps2 last month and picked it up. now it's a classic!

"Some people hate this part."

Well some people SUCK. I loved that part; I was giggling like a schoolgirl all the way through it.

You are an amazing amazing man Mr. O'malley! I'm really happy that you're doing this behind the scenes stuff, and now you'll have all this juicy material for when they ask you to do audio commentary on the movie. ^__^
But yeah, I just started working on a graphic novel myself, and its more then intimidating, but reading this is giving me strength to go on! THank you!!

work on volume 4 is intimidating, so this is both procrastination and an effort to get the juices flowing! i also want to write some of these things down before I forget everything.

Thanks for this, it's a for sure favorite right now.

I still get a huge charge out of that "You won't know what hit you..." panel. One of my all-time favorites.

When I saw Kung Fu Hustle a while later, I thought of this panel when the gang broke into the coreographed disco dancing.

i loved the intro of that movie and i wish there was more dance stuff in it! (the rest was fun, but I felt a little let down after that intro.)

Crash 'n' the Boys was probably the goofy oh-my-goodness reference that cemented my relationship with the series. Also I think they might be my favorite group of characters.

Man, these are great. Scott and Ramona's dialogue from when she delivers the package until Scott gets home is my favorite part of the book.

Is Stephen Still's briefing on Crash and the Boys (it's a... GIRL.) inspired by anything or just an idea you had?

I love this one even more! Hurrah!

I always thought "Baby I was born to destroy you!!" was actually a pretty good lyric. I mean, maybe you wrote it for a sight gag, I dunno. If I heard that as the opening line for a song I'd be all over it. Is it actually in a Kupek song that I missed? Hrm.

Also, I love the sense of demented urgency. And the air juggle is brilliant. You know, I'll just go ahead and say I love the entire book.

I can't remember what book it's in (it's probably SP3, even!), but I always thought it was cool that Scott had that Smashing Pumpkins shirt that was a heart with an SP in it, 'cause his initials are also SP!

Yeesh, I never made the connection between Knives and Envy's parallel development despite reading it multiple times. And yes, "Baby I was born to destroy you" should totally be put to song.

I just wanted to say that Scott Pilgrim is awesome, and that the "obviously one of us went to Professor Xavier's school for gifted youngsters and one of us didn't/ obviously one of us is a total nerd" exchange is a wonderful encapsulation of my relationship with comics and my girlfriend.

Also when Wallace is drunk he has some of the best lines. Just thought that you should know

Team Fremont Live Podcast

(Anonymous)

2007-01-08 09:41 pm (UTC)

They discussed Scott Pilgrim on this week's episode of Team Fremont Live. You can find the episode here: http://www.teamfremont.com/teamfremontlive.shtml

It's the 1.7.2007 episode.

Apparently, one of their listeners is such a fan that he sent them a copy to read. Awesome!

"You won't know what hit you in the slightest!"

[info]pkmaniac1

2008-05-19 02:25 pm (UTC)

For the friends I introduced to Scott Pilgrim, the fight scene really was a make-or-break point, but my story of it was this:

I was walking through campus (pan american university at the very bottom of Texas) reading Scott Pilgrim for the first time, enjoying every page, when suddenly the scene changes from the setup for music to the fight scene with Matthew Patel. At the exact moment of my turning the page and my eyes absorbing the splash page, this sorta techno poppy fight music came on over the student union speakers. That's right, in response to the change in tense the WORLD CHANGED to match Scott Pilgrim.

Rock!


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